Hold your memory foam pillow tight and tell it to take the night off: for now, the only thing you need to remember is that good-good stuff we call cereal. So fill your cleanest pillow case with milk ‘n’ Fruity Pebbles, because it’s time to sink your noggin into The Empty Bowl Episode Thirteen.

On the latest episode of our “meditative podcast about cereal,” Justin and I talk cookies, cookie dough, and cookies + creme; discuss the weighty matter of new Fillows Cereal; and plumb the depths of cereal’s rich media history. Give it a listen while you fall asleep, fall in love, or fall under the spell of Cookie Jarvis.

Got a long night ahead? You can find more cereal lullabies on tape at our Anchor hub, follow along on Twitter, or send in a listener question. We can’t discuss or respond to every email, but they definitely make the work day go by faster.